Tman Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Guys, Did anyone lose 2 crates of 1928A1 parts and a crate of XX mags? I was just at Intercontental Airport in Houston and noticed that these 3 crates looked lost so I opened them and lo and behold, 28 parts and XX mags. All NOS straight from Russia according to the crates. How did these get here? It was my understanding that Lend-Lease Thompson parts and mags were verboten to be reimported. Did things change? Pics to follow. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter63a Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 Hardrede, I agree that they are currently illegal. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif However, a more assinine law never existed. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif Let them come home to the nation that made them and the people who want them. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif Who knows, it might even bring the prices on all Thompson parts down a bit. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Cheers, Walter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorcar Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 Greg! You guys with the badges find all the cool stuff! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/laugh.gif If it is legal, sure would do a bunch to explain the kits that keep showing up at IMA, OOW, Unique Canes etc. Should be a facinating explaination. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/ph34r.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIONHART Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 QUOTE (Walter63a @ Mar 19 2005, 02:32 PM) Hardrede, I agree that they are currently illegal. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/sad.gif However, a more assinine law never existed. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/mad.gif Let them come home to the nation that made them and the people who want them. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/smile.gif Who knows, it might even bring the prices on all Thompson parts down a bit. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Cheers, Walter Couldn't agree more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamm Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 QUOTE Hardrede, I agree that they are currently illegal. However, a more assinine law never existed. Let them come home to the nation that made them and the people who want them. Who knows, it might even bring the prices on all Thompson parts down a bit. Cheers, Walter Ditto that Lionhart! Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crow Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 You can send the entire shipment to me though, should no one claim it. But I would like a written statement that I can bypass the Federal Vacation. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron A Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 colt21a - maybe instead of a board for semi 27's John could suggest a board for useless crap.. then those who want to post photos we have all seen for the last 20 years could be saved the time. It could also be a place for those with their first post who want to know how to make a 27 squirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Maybe it's the guys from the UK sneaking them in and selling the parts at the guns shows. You keep the receivers and I'll drive down and take the rest. Or just send me a box and I'll put them away until the next amnesty period comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubadvr Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Good Morning gentleman, I am new to Thompsons and to this board. Its a pretty cool place. So from what I am reading, possessing a kit purchased from OOW is illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye_Joe Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 That's just it... WE don't know.. and neither does an agent of the regulatory agency who oversees these things. These kits are coming in somehow and are being sold by reputable gunbrokers such as OOW, Omega Weapons, IMA and Unique Canes. I somehow don't think all these Govt. audited and licensed dealers would be blatantly selling "illegally" imported parts. They would have just too much to lose.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubadvr Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 OOW is a pretty responsibe company. I can't believe they would risk so much to make so little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 I've herad that the importation of machinegun parts and mags is currently illegal (although "accessories" are OK??) and have heard many on these boards talk about why and list names of those they've talked to that corroborate this information. HOWEVER, http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/blink.gif I have yet to see a name or number of legislation or executive order that specifically bans this stuff. It used to be legal to import, but now it isn't. http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/dry.gif So show me the laws? Anyone? john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotDeaf Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Well TMAN, I would love to see the pictures, if have any, please post them and if you don't have any pictures, please ship them to ......(LOL) Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMG28 Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Bob Landies will not do anything even questionable in his business. I had asked him a couple years ago about importing Thompson items (among others), and he told me he was aware of quite a bit outside the country but that he could not bring it in legally at that time. I am not a legal beagle and have never worked through the issues of importing, let alone ex-military importing, but I am certain that wherever Bob is getting his supplies is TOTALLY legit. In fact, for all of the current seller, I have to agree with scubadvr. Any profit gained is certainly not worth having your business shut down for a Federal vacation. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman Posted March 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Here's the pics I promised. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/Tman1928a1/MVC-551S.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/Tman1928a1/MVC-550S.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/Tman1928a1/MVC-549S.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y67/Tman1928a1/MVC-548S.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 I'll take the whole box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amafrank Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Two points here. I don't think that Ohio Ord-Bob Landies was the importer. I believe they got the kits from another party. Probably doesn't make much difference legally.... I don't think most of the kits now in the country were imported from russia. The russians sold a ton of stuff to the Hungarians, Bulgarians and Romania quite a few years back. I think the import regs say that it has to have been out of the proscribed country for more than 5 years and it had to be a legal sale before it can be imported. If this is the case then all the kits properly imported should be fine. This doesn't mean to say that stuff coming from russia is fine. As far as I know imports of military stuff from russia is still a no-no. This is all opinion based on hearsay of course but so is this whole thread. (Other than Tmans original post ) Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 QUOTE (amafrank @ Mar 25 2005, 11:05 AM) I don't think most of the kits now in the country were imported from russia. The russians sold a ton of stuff to the Hungarians, Bulgarians and Romania quite a few years back. I think the import regs say that it has to have been out of the proscribed country for more than 5 years and it had to be a legal sale before it can be imported. If this is the case then all the kits properly imported should be fine. This doesn't mean to say that stuff coming from russia is fine. As far as I know imports of military stuff from russia is still a no-no. Frank Frank, I think your scenario is the most plausible explaination for all the Thompson kits currently on the market but why are we not seeing WW2 era drums aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotDeaf Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Well Tmen .... This question has been eatting me up, sorry I have to ask .... If you found them, who has them now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIONHART Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Hey TMan, take possession, and start an Auction here! http://www.machinegunbooks.com/forums/invboard1_1_2/upload/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamm Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Dare I say, Fed's own it now. Next stop = Destruction ? Hope not, what a shame. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIONHART Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 QUOTE Dare I say, Fed's own it now. Next stop = Destruction ? Hope not, what a shame. Z Perhaps they do. Afterall, do any of us actually want to see all these dangerous parts hit the Streets? We must do everything we can to protect the Children! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamm Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Hell No Lionhart! You saw the photos! Could you imagine what would happen if those stocks hit the streets??!!! Man, ever get clocked in the jaw by a solid piece of Walnut complete with case hardened WWII steel. Man, I can guarantee $10,000 Dental work! And those frames! Sh*t! Gangs are just drooling about duck taping those to AK 48 recievers to complete some of the most devistating assault weapons on the streets! God, with a Springfield pike bayonet crazy-glued and strap-wired to the Flash hider/supressor/compensator/evil barrel shroud/para-military french tickling end cap (NON-ORANGE to boot!) we might as well just give up and call it a day, all is lost because assualt weapons will be mowing us down everywhere! Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzeeeeeeeeee! Zamm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tman Posted March 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 The kits were shipped from a place in the UK.(go figure) Houston was just a waypoint on its journey to Arizona. US Customs called us in to look at them to make sure there were no receivers in the crates. Customs has first crack at any US Munitions List violations. I'm sure that the person on the end will be interviewed. Sorry, guys. No auction here. The way bill stated that the value was $1 per mag and $40 per parts kit. What a bargain! I told the Customs guy that the shipment was way undervalued so someone will have to pay the extra duties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIONHART Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 I should have become a Dentist... Feel your pain bro. It's NEVER cheap heading there. $2500.00 Root Canals.. Good lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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