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#1 huggytree

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 08:07 AM

my S1928 has a 5(stevens) bar on it....want to bring it back to original...anyone have a good/excellent condition grip bar to sell or swap for the 5tevens?

 


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 08:56 AM

Don't make any changes just yet. Savage is not listed as a supplier of that part. Give me a day of two to check my gun. There are some strange marking variations on these early S guns.

 

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 09:45 AM

I believe this part is correct on a Savage produced 28. My original finish original barreled gun has the same part. I just checked 2 more Savage 28s and they also have the Stevens S stamped on the mount.

TD - Serial numbers for Savage 1928A1 above
S-177523, Savage 1928 S-110230 and a parts kit gun S-250574

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 09:56 AM

1921A,

What is the serial number of your Savage 1928? And the other two Savage 28s?


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 10:54 AM

Huggy, don't fall into the trap of fixing things that should not be fixed.

 

The body of knowledge on all these collector guns is incomplete and it is flawed.

 

A lot of the "knowledge" out there is merely stuff that people have repeated back and forth for decades and then it becomes stubbornly believed in.

 

I knew a guy who took an original Springfield Armory barrel off of a pristine Harrington and Richardson Garand.

 

He knew it was original but he said, "The other collectors won't accept it this way."

 

The guy would rather spoil a mint collector item then have other collectors think badly of it.  That is a pretty sad state of affairs.

 

 

You might think I'm over-stating the situation, but I was a Garand collector for decades and the loud, dumb, stubbornness of the Garand guys continually got on my nerves.

 

The worst part of it was the "restoration" of gunstocks.  These guys would clean the stock with a harsh chemical and then stick the stock in the dishwasher.  And then they would put red boot polish on the stock and follow it with a weird, complicated application of linseed oil.

 

it's forehead-slappingly dumb and awful but that's what "everyone" says to do.


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 11:17 AM

I agree with Buzz, it isn't worth the tribulations of removing and replacing the barrel

unless you already own the proper tools and are looking for an excuse :-)

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 11:31 AM

Savage, Stevens and Fox. Basically the same outfit. I believe your grip mount is original to the gun. Just my .02 cents.

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 11:48 AM

Huggy, don't fall into the trap of fixing things that should not be fixed.
 
The body of knowledge on all these collector guns is incomplete and it is flawed.
 
A lot of the "knowledge" out there is merely stuff that people have repeated back and forth for decades and then it becomes stubbornly believed in.
 
I knew a guy who took an original Springfield Armory barrel off of a pristine Harrington and Richardson Garand.
 
He knew it was original but he said, "The other collectors won't accept it this way."
 
The guy would rather spoil a mint collector item then have other collectors think badly of it.  That is a pretty sad state of affairs.
 
 
You might think I'm over-stating the situation, but I was a Garand collector for decades and the loud, dumb, stubbornness of the Garand guys continually got on my nerves.
 
The worst part of it was the "restoration" of gunstocks.  These guys would clean the stock with a harsh chemical and then stick the stock in the dishwasher.  And then they would put red boot polish on the stock and follow it with a weird, complicated application of linseed oil.
 
it's forehead-slappingly dumb and awful but that's what "everyone" says to do.

This is absolutely correct.

By the way, my Savage M1A1 has a Stevens marked grip hanger.
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Posted 18 November 2016 - 11:53 AM

Huggy,

I'm with the rest of the guys, you could be removing a original part let it go.

 

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 11:53 AM

Huggy, don't fall into the trap of fixing things that should not be fixed.

 

The body of knowledge on all these collector guns is incomplete and it is flawed.

 

A lot of the "knowledge" out there is merely stuff that people have repeated back and forth for decades and then it becomes stubbornly believed in.

 

I knew a guy who took an original Springfield Armory barrel off of a pristine Harrington and Richardson Garand.

 

He knew it was original but he said, "The other collectors won't accept it this way."

 

The guy would rather spoil a mint collector item then have other collectors think badly of it.  That is a pretty sad state of affairs.

 

 

You might think I'm over-stating the situation, but I was a Garand collector for decades and the loud, dumb, stubbornness of the Garand guys continually got on my nerves.

 

The worst part of it was the "restoration" of gunstocks.  These guys would clean the stock with a harsh chemical and then stick the stock in the dishwasher.  And then they would put red boot polish on the stock and follow it with a weird, complicated application of linseed oil.

 

it's forehead-slappingly dumb and awful but that's what "everyone" says to do.

 

 

Spot on!!


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 12:14 PM

"If ain't broke, don't keep fixing it until it is."

It will never be NIB again.


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 12:19 PM

Since Huggy's Savage Thompson is in the 20,000 serial number range I believe it likely the correct grip mount should be marked with an "S" for Savage Arms. Huggy's early Savage Thompson has had a barrel change or two in its lifetime so it is entirely possible the grip mount was changed too. I would be interested in any guns below the 26,000 serial number range, maybe 30,000, with original barrel and finish and anything other than an "S" mark on the grip mount. The verdict is still out but I have some data to support my position above.

 

Great advice from Buzz, darrylta and Roscoe Turner, above.


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 02:35 PM

Thanks for all the advice!!

 

i didnt think Savage owned 5tevens on 1940??

 

my gun appears all original except for the barrel and wood....this 1 part stood out to me as the only 5 marked part

 

my gun is on its 3rd barrel that i know of

 

I will take all of your advice and leave it for now until i see a similar serial #'d gun with a S marked part


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 03:13 PM

Savage purchased Stevens in 1920.


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 03:50 PM

thank you


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Posted 18 November 2016 - 11:16 PM

I pulled the grip off my 16K gun and the hanger is Savage S marked.  I'd bet that Stevens made it but marked it with the round S. Several  fire control parts on my gun have the round S but are not listed as being supplied by Savage. I have no idea when the Square S use began. The mark on my hanger is in the exact same place as the square S pictured in post #3.

 

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 08:40 AM

My 1928 is in the mid 25k serial number range.  The grip hanger is marked with the Savage rounded "S".  I think I may have emailed TD a photograph at one point when this question had come up in the past.


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Posted 21 November 2016 - 12:11 PM

My M1A1 has a Stevens marked foregrip bar. Also marked with last two digits of serial number.

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 05:17 PM

Still looking for a S marked resting bar if anyone has one theyd sell ???
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 05:40 PM

Do they exist?
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