RoscoeTurner Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 All the information I have on this at the moment. http://www.wtva.com/mostpopular/story/clay-county-gun-weapon-world-war-II/WsadeGDpcUu5Pd3oqpXvbg.cspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt Chopper Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Very interesting, Looks a very nice piece of history, I feel positive it will bring greatly appreciated funds to a needy department and at the same time enlighten someone's collection, or a first time Thompson owners dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest title ii Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Very interesting, Looks a very nice piece of history, I feel positive it will bring greatly appreciated funds to a needy department and at the same time enlighten someone's collection, or a first time Thompson owners dream.Looks like the folks at this sheriff's office will not get the most money possible as they are limiting the sale to dealers only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Very interesting, Looks a very nice piece of history, I feel positive it will bring greatly appreciated funds to a needy department and at the same time enlighten someone's collection, or a first time Thompson owners dream.Looks like the folks at this sheriff's office will not get the most money possible as they are limiting the sale to dealers only. That qualifier is often used on transferable guns to keep the "do-gooders" at bay during the sale. They would much rather see that "engine of death" melted down. For the children, you know. Not sure where 1936 came from but it looks like a nice Bridgeport marked gun. Hope it goes well for all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelkih Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Where can one bid on this? I'm an SOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Clay County Sheriff's Department obtained this 1928A1 TSMG with the 1943 crossbolt stock in 1945 and it remained in storage from that time. "Whether this gun was in World War II or not is something we'll never be able to find out..." Clay County Sheriff Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I am wondering if this 1928 model may be an "AC" variation purchased from the Auto-Ordnance Division of Maguire Industries by the Sheriff's Office in 1945. Roscoe, any additional information you can find, including how to bid, would be greatly appreciated. Any individual living outside this state will have to involve a Class Three dealer in the transfer process so that condition is not a big obstacle. A C&R license would probably suffice but I would not want the department holding on to the Thompson until transfer approval was granted 6 to 9 months later. I would want it out of there and close to home ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted January 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 I can handle the in state transfer part of the deal if anyone on here places the winning bid. I am about an hour and forty five minutes from West Point, MS. Department website with contact information - http://www.claycountyms.com/index.php/public_safety/sheriff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK2112 Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Im guessin $25,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Henley Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 A link to bid information: http://www.claycountyms.com/index.php/businesses/bids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 It is an "AC" variation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full auto 45 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Maguire Industries.Parts gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lone Ranger Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 TD: Several years ago I posted on here about two 28ACs in the sheriff's dept where I grew up - they also came from Maguire, as I recall the approval date on the forms were January, 1946. They had the vertical grips and no "X" at the end of the serial number, but the "US" was removed and the A1 overstamped AC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 The Lone Ranger,The "AC" Thompsons are an interesting variation that many Thompson enthusiasts are not acquainted with. Many times they are lumped into the same category as the WWII GI guns. Sellers do this all the time. They are not government issue. They were sold on the civilian market by Auto-Ordnance Corporation and later the Auto-Ordnance Division of Maguire Industries. There are several distinctive serial number blocks but exceptions do exist. I have seen this variation with and without the "X" serial number suffix. There is no standardization of parts but many/most seem to have a smooth barrel and L type rear sight. Exceptions also exist with the "US" nomenclature being ground off and the "C" overstamp. Full Auto 45 is correct they are parts guns, but parts guns from the original manufacturer - unlike the later NAC Thompson guns. All of the AC variation guns should be on the NFA Registry with the possible exception of those that may have been sold to federal law enforcement agencies. I have started referring to this variation as the Auto-Ordnance Bridgeport (AOB) Commercial Thompson. I always suggest owners obtain a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) packet to see when they were born on the Registry. I believe the first ones I have seen were sold in 1943, the last ones in 1946, but I am stating that from memory. I believe, but cannot prove, George Goll retired from Maguire Industries when the stock of 1928 AOB receivers were depleted. This also marked the end of the Auto-Ordnance Division. This is an interesting Thompson variation in its own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lone Ranger Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) TD: I found the previous post from years back but the photos no longer show.... as you described, smooth barrels, L sight. Probably still rusting away in a locker. P.S. you can see a light spot on the left side of the receiver where the US was removed. Edited January 3, 2015 by The Lone Ranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman1957 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Boy, guess they really hated that rear sight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK2112 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Theres better thompsons to spend your money on......this ones beat to hell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhouston8 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Just got word that the Tommy in West Point, MS sold for $25,000 to a dude from Louisiana via sealed bid auction. I drove up there, inspected the gun, and made a reasonable bid on it the other day. The gun was reportedly last fired "12-13 yrs ago". Dept got it in 1945 according to the paperwork I saw. I called ATF and verified it was indeed transferable.The action seemed smooth. Corrosive ammo prob shot thru it as barrel was pitted. Dirty as heck. Here are some pics of the gun. http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed3_zpsf689ff91.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed1_zps8155dce1.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed5_zps0178f42a.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed2_zps9d2f03a2.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed4_zpsc20f518a.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed6_zps2c369330.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed7_zps12e3bde0.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed_zps80fa6b96.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed9_zpsc9785528.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unnamed8_zpsb5fa7b80.jpg http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h440/rhouston8/tommy/unname_zps4cae7aa3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Henley Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Somebody must have wanted it awfully bad to pay that much in that condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim c 351 Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 If the gun was a Colt it would be hard to resurrect.But its a Savage. A light sandblast or glass bead and Hot blue or park job and it would look a lot better.Savage barrels and stocks aren't out of sight yet.A reasonably nice looking gun is hiding behind the surface.Still and all, for the money, a better looking gun could be found with a little patience.Jim C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoscoeTurner Posted January 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 Makes my Pre May 1928 look like a safe queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz Posted January 10, 2015 Report Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) If you put that gun up for sale on gunbroker for $25,000, it would sell. A lot of people are getting very sweaty and desperate out there they want to buy in before the prices are out of reach plenty of guys will pay 10% or 20% extra for a rare gun without a care Edited January 10, 2015 by buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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