Rabbit57 Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/923039647 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Hes only $30k-$35k too high on his price..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reconbob Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Something is wrong some where...the only time yousee battering of the bolt like this is if its a West Hurley andthe bolt pocket in the receiver is too deep allowing the boltto jump the sear. Or maybe the sear spring is the wrong springand too light? Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimcrew Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 That poor girl has had a hard life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit57 Posted February 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Man, you guys are good!From the description, I thought this gun was pretty nice. It seems the learning continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Rabbit57,While the description is important, it is best to judge the gun. For $59,000 one would expect a very nice Colt Thompson submachine gun; NO 8857 is not that Colt. That said, it would make a nice shooter grade Colt at a much lower price. One of the biggest distractions is the inventory number that has been sloppily inscribed below the serial number with some type of electric pencil engraving tool. Most non-factory markings on the left side of a Colt Thompson really cause a big deduction in value. See picture below: Aside from the inventory number, the overall condition of this Colt is nowhere in the $59,000 range to an educated buyer. The police markings on the rear of the receiver are unusual but not unsightly or a problem. Unfortunately, the State of Washington does not allow for machine gun ownership by civilians so no real market there. The best feature of NO 8857 is the police hardcase but that still does not warrant a 59K price. The owner would probably do better to sell the hardcase separately. The two non-colt era L drums do not add value to a Colt. I really like Bob's comment about the bolt. I would guess this Colt has been fired repeatedly by the police department over the years with the original buffer pilot assembly. No doubt the buffer discs are fully compressed and worn out. No pictures of the rear of the bolt. I would not be surprised to see wear on the rear of the bolt where the bolt probably contacted the buffer tube. Something definitely happened here, and it detracts from value. My advice to those interested in a Colt Thompson would be to keep looking! That inventory number will not age well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 That is one worn out bolt.. Even my WH bolt which does have a deep pocket doesn't have that wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Fliegenheimer Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Owner who purchased the Colt from the Seattle P.D. in 2012 surely rescued it as in 2016 the new Seattle P.D. policy was to turn department firearms into manhole covers. "In policy change, Seattle police to destroy unused guns instead of selling themOriginally published June 28, 2016Instead of having guns be resold to the manufacturer or sent to other law-enforcement agencies, the Seattle City Council voted unanimously to destroy all unused guns in the Seattle Police Department."https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/in-policy-change-spd-to-destroy-unused-guns/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Arthur, so very true. Law enforcement agencies that hang on to properly registered Form 1 or Form 5 Thompson submachine guns because of the 'history' always run the chance that a future Chief, City Council or Sheriff will decide destruction is the best answer. When a Thompson gun enters the commercial marketplace, the chances for long term survival increase dramatically. What the St. Louis Police Department did several years ago with their Class 3 weapons was the perfect answer to shrinking police budgets. It was a lesson on how elected officials should treat government assets. Of course, no one ever accused the politicians in Seattle as being the smartest people in the world. You definitely get what you vote for! The Seattle Police Department Thompson guns have been discussed on this forum. Search on the word "Seattle" and several threads will appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klocker Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 I believe this Colt is discussed in this thread: http://www.machinegunboards.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=15066&hl=seattle&page=2 Dolphinvet on this board is most likely the seller although I am not 100% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryo Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Washington stupidity dealing with firearms is growing every year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightguy Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 Hes only $30k-$35k too high on his price..... I'd pay 35K all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rem001 Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Rabbit57,While the description is important, it is best to judge the gun. For $59,000 one would expect a very nice Colt Thompson submachine gun; NO 8857 is not that Colt. That said, it would make a nice shooter grade Colt at a much lower price. One of the biggest distractions is the inventory number that has been sloppily inscribed below the serial number with some type of electric pencil engraving tool. Most non-factory markings on the left side of a Colt Thompson really cause a big deduction in value. See picture below: NO 8857 with arrow.jpg Aside from the inventory number, the overall condition of this Colt is nowhere in the $59,000 range to an educated buyer. The police markings on the rear of the receiver are unusual but not unsightly or a problem. Unfortunately, the State of Washington does not allow for machine gun ownership by civilians so no real market there. The best feature of NO 8857 is the police hardcase but that still does not warrant a 59K price. The owner would probably do better to sell the hardcase separately. The two non-colt era L drums do not add value to a Colt. I really like Bob's comment about the bolt. I would guess this Colt has been fired repeatedly by the police department over the years with the original buffer pilot assembly. No doubt the buffer discs are fully compressed and worn out. No pictures of the rear of the bolt. I would not be surprised to see wear on the rear of the bolt where the bolt probably contacted the buffer tube. Something definitely happened here, and it detracts from value. My advice to those interested in a Colt Thompson would be to keep looking! That inventory number will not age well. wow! what a great observation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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