Grease Gunner Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 Some Colts, WHs, and M1a1sIt starts Friday May3rd and the Class 3 stuff will start mid to late afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Mills Posted May 3, 2019 Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 Link:https://www.rockislandauction.com/catalog/76/1/?keywords=Thompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 I don't see the results. When do they usually get posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmarvin Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 The 27AC seems to have sold cheap at $28,000.The other colts varied from $30-$65,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 The Model of 1927AC was a re-blued Colt's with a GI Type 4 compensator most likely indicating a barrel that was not original, The grip was not Colt's and the butt stock was questionable. I would be very surprised if the internals contained the original semi-automatic parts but this is just a guess on my part. At a hammer price of $27,500 plus Buyers Premium, it will make someone an expensive shooter grade Colt's. I believe this is the second time around for NO 4706; the last time was about same if my memory is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 Maybe Mr. Cors has a reserve that hasn't been met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted May 4, 2019 Report Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) Does anyone have the sold prices for the Colt's? Thanks. Lot #1560 Ser. 4001 #759 Ser. 12666 #760 Ser. 4580 #766 Ser. 3151 Edited May 4, 2019 by mnshooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD. Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 These hammer prices are from my notes. I did not see Lot #1560, NO 4001. I thought NO 4001 sold at an earlier Rock Island auction. Rock Island Auction on May 3, 2019: NO 4706 - 2197AC: $27,500 plus BP - re-blue, wood, barrel and compensator issuesNO 12666 - 1928 NAVY: $65,000 plus BPNO 4580 - 1921A: $50,000 plus BPNO 3151 - 1921AC: $30,000 plus BP - re-blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firearm Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 I can handle the sale prices, just not the buyers premiums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnshooter Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Thanks Tom. And, I just received my copy of your Colt book.Only needs an autograph to be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Did anyone see what the Marlin-Rockwell Digger sold for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsonlmg41 Posted May 5, 2019 Report Share Posted May 5, 2019 Did anyone see what the Marlin-Rockwell Digger sold for?From my notes 11K. Plus premium. The lewis 16K plus premium. Some deals, no steals. As always every auction is a crapshoot between recycled items with high reserves and staggeringly high bids like 10K Reisings. Good day to be selling MP40's in the 30's with BP. Lots of guns can be bought on their photos alone, but if I were spending money on a common gun like a Colt Thompson, where prices for the same gun can seem to swing more than 40K depending on the finish and potentially a few minor replaced parts, you're going to want to see it in person for verification, or you're likely to pay too much. Course I think if you pay more than 35K for any Thompson, you've already paid too much unless it has proven provenance to some major event, but that's clearly personal opinion. Generally I value military guns higher overall. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ville28 Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 Anyone know what the final price was for the West Hurley? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got Uzi Posted May 6, 2019 Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 $11k was dirt cheap!! Even with the BP its still now bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimFromFL Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 Anyone know what the final price was for the West Hurley? Thanks One of the WH Thompson sold for $31Khttps://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/76/767/auto-ordnance-corp-thompson-1928-smg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted May 8, 2019 Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 The Model of 1927AC was a re-blued Colt's with a GI Type 4 compensator most likely indicating a barrel that was not original, The grip was not Colt's and the butt stock was questionable. I would be very surprised if the internals contained the original semi-automatic parts but this is just a guess on my part. At a hammer price of $27,500 plus Buyers Premium, it will make someone an expensive shooter grade Colt's. I believe this is the second time around for NO 4706; the last time was about same if my memory is correct. Looking at the Realized Prices there is none listed for the 1927 Colt. The $27,500 hammer price must not have hit the reserve? Looks like it may have a third go round at a future auction. Lot 754: Colt/Auto-Ordnance Model 1927 (AC) Thompson Submachine GunHeadline: Extremely Rare Colt/Auto-Ordnance Class III/NFA C&R Model 1927 (AC) "Semi-Automatic" Only Thompson Submachine GunEstimated Price: $45,000.00 - $70,000.00Caliber / Gauge: 45 ACP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylta Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Looks like the Thompson FBI case went for just under 6K.I had a bid on it for $3500 to no avail..Its a good thing that everything is marching upwards in price forus older collectors.One day we all will have to sell everything, hopefully not at fire saleprices.Darryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease Gunner Posted May 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 These hammer prices are from my notes. I did not see Lot #1560, NO 4001. I thought NO 4001 sold at an earlier Rock Island auction. Rock Island Auction on May 3, 2019: NO 4706 - 2197AC: $27,500 plus BP - re-blue, wood, barrel and compensator issuesNO 12666 - 1928 NAVY: $65,000 plus BPNO 4580 - 1921A: $50,000 plus BPNO 3151 - 1921AC: $30,000 plus BP - re-blue Here are all of them including buyer premium and serial number Lot 754 Colt 1927 serial 4706 passed as it did not hit sellers reserve(per RIA) lot 757 AOC 1928 serial 1817321 $37385 (notes said assembled at end of warlot 759 Colt 1928 serial 12666 $74750lot760 Colt 1921A serial 4580 $57,500lot 764 WH 1928 $28,750 (WOW)lot 766 Colt 1921 serial 3151 $34,500lot 767 WH 1928 $31,625 (WOW)lot1568 Colt 1921 serial 4001 $69000lot 1569 Colt 1928 serial 7439 $54,600 Other notables were an Uzi that brought $17ka Mac $11,500AR180 $20,700Reising $8600 As collector enthusiasts this is good news to see high pricesbut for the person on the hunt a Reising at $8600 seems out of reach and a mac at $11,500!! HERE is a link to Page 1 of the class 3 part of Rock Island Auctionsto see page 2 , just click next at the bottom of page https://www.rockislandauction.com/catalog/76/class-iii/1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petroleum 1 Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 GG thanks for posting. All matching MP44 over $48k wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 These hammer prices are from my notes. I did not see Lot #1560, NO 4001. I thought NO 4001 sold at an earlier Rock Island auction. Rock Island Auction on May 3, 2019: NO 4706 - 2197AC: $27,500 plus BP - re-blue, wood, barrel and compensator issuesNO 12666 - 1928 NAVY: $65,000 plus BPNO 4580 - 1921A: $50,000 plus BPNO 3151 - 1921AC: $30,000 plus BP - re-blue Here are all of them including buyer premium and serial number Lot 754 Colt 1927 serial 4706 passed as it did not hit sellers reserve(per RIA) lot 757 AOC 1928 serial 1817321 $37385 (notes said assembled at end of warlot 759 Colt 1928 serial 12666 $74750lot760 Colt 1921A serial 4580 $57,500lot 764 WH 1928 $28,750 (WOW)lot 766 Colt 1921 serial 3151 $34,500lot 767 WH 1928 $31,625 (WOW)lot1568 Colt 1921 serial 4001 $69000lot 1569 Colt 1928 serial 7439 $54,600 Other notables were an Uzi that brought $17ka Mac $11,500AR180 $20,700Reising $8600 As collector enthusiasts this is good news to see high pricesbut for the person on the hunt a Reising at $8600 seems out of reach and a mac at $11,500!! HERE is a link to Page 1 of the class 3 part of Rock Island Auctionsto see page 2 , just click next at the bottom of page https://www.rockislandauction.com/catalog/76/class-iii/1/ Is that a typo on lot 757 the AOC TSMG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 GG, Jump in on the Reising. Deals can still be had. I paid more than I wanted to for mine, but Im still glad I bought it. I could have bought a gun for less, but I bought quality and an early gun. Also the seller was awesome!!!! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightguy Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 Rock Island seems to be the auction place to sell.The last Morphy auction was kind of a dud for sellers.Even with their library quality catalog vs Rock's Sears quality catalogs,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron_brock Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 GG PM sent Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeport28A1 Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 These hammer prices are from my notes. I did not see Lot #1560, NO 4001. I thought NO 4001 sold at an earlier Rock Island auction. Rock Island Auction on May 3, 2019: NO 4706 - 2197AC: $27,500 plus BP - re-blue, wood, barrel and compensator issuesNO 12666 - 1928 NAVY: $65,000 plus BPNO 4580 - 1921A: $50,000 plus BPNO 3151 - 1921AC: $30,000 plus BP - re-blue Here are all of them including buyer premium and serial number Lot 754 Colt 1927 serial 4706 passed as it did not hit sellers reserve(per RIA) lot 757 AOC 1928 serial 1817321 $37385 (notes said assembled at end of warlot 759 Colt 1928 serial 12666 $74750lot760 Colt 1921A serial 4580 $57,500lot 764 WH 1928 $28,750 (WOW)lot 766 Colt 1921 serial 3151 $34,500lot 767 WH 1928 $31,625 (WOW)lot1568 Colt 1921 serial 4001 $69000lot 1569 Colt 1928 serial 7439 $54,600 Other notables were an Uzi that brought $17ka Mac $11,500AR180 $20,700Reising $8600 As collector enthusiasts this is good news to see high pricesbut for the person on the hunt a Reising at $8600 seems out of reach and a mac at $11,500!! HERE is a link to Page 1 of the class 3 part of Rock Island Auctionsto see page 2 , just click next at the bottom of page https://www.rockislandauction.com/catalog/76/class-iii/1/ Petroleum 1, there was a Reising at $11,500. I don't recall a Reising selling for this much previously. It did appear to have an original finish on it. Lot 1571: Harrington & Richardson Inc - Reising Model 50 Price Realized: $11,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease Gunner Posted May 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 Serial on Lot 757 is the way it was registered. No serial appears on the gunRock Island said in the ad "When registered the Class III/NFA paper work instead just used the last patent date "1817321" as the serial number" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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